what about the samsung galaxy? it's a bigger phone, bigger than the apple, and they have better apps, of course, in terms of the mapping. does -- is apple -- >> they have google. david: does apple face real competition seriously from samsung? >> sure, because samsong follows the strategy of multiple phones rather than just one or in the case of apple, two sizes or form factors as the nerds like to say so, yes, absolutely app -- apple is faces competition from samsung. for a long period of time, apple had the field to itself. that's not the case anymore. you can see that as a cup half full or empty perspective. apple still has the potential to be the leader, to make a ton of money, to expand a in new countries and so on, but they have to share the stage with samsung, and maybe microsoft, know kia -- nokia and blackberry. liz: you can't laugh, but hewlitt-packard bought them a year ago, they didn't make any changes, but megawhitman says we're going a smart phone when we're ready to present something that's presentive